he says lance armstrong needs to personally apologize to some of these guys. who, brian, do you think should be most furious over this? >> well, you know, there are a couple of people. there are so many people that i have spoken to, a woman by the name of bessey andreu who has been vilvilified, called all so of names, crazy and insane. the former team operator emma o'reilly, an irish woman, who i spoke to, who he really went after, tried to sue personally, tried to ruin her life. there are a number of people. whether or not they would be willing to accept a personal apology, after all the water that has gone under the bridge, i don't know. i think there is a kind of sort of sigh of relief among some of those people, but i also think a lot of those people are sort of now that it is out, we're done with armstrong, and frankly we don't care about him anymore ever. >> ever. ever you say. >> the depth of -- the depth of hatred for armstrong within that small community of cyclists who were affected by him is really deep. as far as the general american public is conc